Ross and Carrie Meet Amy and Amanda: Leaving Shakuntali Edition

Ross and Carrie sit down for a gripping and emotional conversation with two former followers of spiritual leader Shakuntali Siberia. Amanda Atkinson and Amy Speck were devout followers of the Russian “shaman” until just eight months ago, when they began to suspect that something was deeply wrong within their spiritual community. Hear them describe the emotional, financial, and spiritual manipulation that they believe is at the heart of Shakuntali’s movement… and how they got out.

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Carrie Meets Shakuntali Siberia: Unfalsifiability Edition

After several botched attempts, Carrie sits down with “enlightened woman,” “Siberian shaman priestess,” and “doctor of psychology” Shakuntali Siberia to discuss her philosophy of empowering women, working with scientists, and healing disease, including COVID-19. Using Shakuntali’s own materials and videos, Carrie draws together multiple threads in the guru’s origin story, questions her recent in-person “health and protection” circles, challenges some of her central claims, and asks her followers to consider the source. PLUS, find out who Carrie’s ancestors are!

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